Draft Day Two Recap: Mets Load Up on College Talent

By Teddy Klein

June 11, 2016 290 Comments

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The Mets had eight selections on day two of the draft and they went with all college selections including three infielders to get the day started. To see what happened in day one of the draft check here:

We’ll be starting with #100 and giving you as many scouting reports as we can find:

Pick: Round 3, Pick 100 Overall

Slot Value: $596,600

Name: Blake Tiberi           School: University Of Louisville, Sophomore        Position:  3B         

Bat/Throws:   L/R             Height:  5’11”                      Weight: 200

Scouting Report: 

MLB.com

Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 45 | Run: 40 | Arm: 50 | Field: 45 | Overall: 45

In his first two years of college, Tiberi had more success in summer ball than he did at Louisville. He redshirted in his first season with the Cardinals and played sparingly in 2015, but he earned all-star honors in the New England Collegiate and Cape Cod leagues. He led the Cape with 15.6 plate appearances per strikeout and finished eighth in the batting race at .315 last summer, and he has recorded similar numbers as Louisville’s everyday third baseman this spring.

Tiberi has good feel for hitting and rarely swings and misses. The downside is that he makes contact so easily that he draws few walks, so his batting average will be more impressive than his on-base percentage. While he homered just once in 34 games with wood bats on the Cape last year, leading to some concerns about his power, he has driven the ball consistently as a redshirt sophomore.

Tiberi has below-average speed but has worked hard on his conditioning and his quickness at third base. He’s a decent defender with good hands and an average arm, though he could be in trouble if he doesn’t have the pop to profile at the hot corner. He doesn’t have the tools for second base and the offensive demands would be even greater in left field.

Baseball America #157

One of the best high school hitters in Kentucky history (his .510 career average ranks among the top 10 in state history), Tiberi has always hit, but finding the right pro position for him is a tougher call. A draft-eligible redshirt sophomore, Tiberi has answered some of the questions about his ability to stick at third base by doing a good job of tightening up his body. He is a thicker-bodied, stocky third baseman who has an above-average arm. He does a good job of charging slow rollers and throwing on the run. But Tiberi’s inside-out swing, whole-field approach and fringy home run power doesn’t fit the traditional third base profile. The lefthanded hitter has a long track record of hitting for average–he hit .315 in the Cape Cod League last summer. Tiberi’s lack of plus power will cause him to slide despite his success in the ACC. Tiberi’s body, arm strength and short-range quickness could entice a pro team to look at him as a catcher as well.

 

Pick: Round 4, Pick 130 Overall

Slot Value: $446,500

Name:  Michael Paez          School: Coastal Carolina      Position:   SS

Bat/Throws:   R/R             Height:  5’8″                      Weight: 165

Scouting Report: 

MLB.com

Paez is a Coastal Carolina shortstop that may project better as a second baseman. He is something of a raw hitter with a big home run swing, but he has good speed and an overall solid player.

Baseball America #403

Paez impressed evaluators in the Cape Cod League over the summer, batting .295/.417/.372 in 129 at-bats. The Coastal Carolina shortstop went on to hit 14 home runs through 240 at-bats this spring, batting .296/.382/.558, but those numbers came in a hitter’s friendly park, and the buzz around him has generally decreased. Paez has shown less feel for hitting this spring and instead seems more intent on trying to hit home runs, overswinging from his compact 5-foot-9, 175-pound frame. An average runner, Paez doesn’t have a clear carrying tool, and most scouts view him as a second baseman in pro ball.

Pick: Round 5, Pick 160 Overall

Slot Value: $334,500

Name: Colby Woodmansee    School: Arizona State            Position:     SS      

Bat/Throws: R/R               Height:   6’3″                     Weight: 195

Scouting Report:

BA #133/500

Woodmansee has anchored the Sun Devil offense for the last two seasons, progressively improving both at the plate and in the field during his time as ASU’s starting shortstop. While not flashy, he’s a solid middle infielder capable of playing above his tools. He’s a slightly below-average runner but is athletic and makes the plays at shortstop. His feet have shown increased quickness during his junior season and he projects to be at least an average defender with an average or better arm. He can stay at shortstop for now, but if he grows out of his 6-foot-3, 192 pound frame he’s athletic enough to handle other positions. At the plate Woodmansee’s swing has a good bat path, allowing him to get to inside pitches. He’s a disciplined hitter who strikes out in only 13 percent of his plate appearances and draws nearly as many walks as strikeouts. He has good bat speed and above-average raw power. Woodmansee projects to go off the boards in the top five rounds.

MLB.com 117

Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 40 | Run: 45 | Arm: 50 | Field: 45 | Overall: 45

A Phoenix area native who stayed home to attend Arizona State, Woodmansee has been the Sun Devils’ starting shortstop for two-plus years, with a solid track record to show for it. It’s unclear exactly where he profiles, but college position players who perform well for major programs tend to do well come Draft time.

There are definitely some Woodmansee supporters in the scouting industry. Tall and lanky, he has shown some ability with the bat. He has some power to left, though the right-handed hitter can get a little pull happy as a result. A fringy runner, at best, he might not have the range to stay at shortstop long-term. If he has to move to third, then the question becomes about if he’ll grow into enough power to profile at the infield corner.

At worst, Woodmansee could be a valuable utility type with some feel to hit. A team that believes he has the tools to stick as an everyday shortstop might be the one to take him in the first few rounds.

 

Pick: Round 6, Pick 190 Overall

Slot Value: $250,500

Name: Christopher Viall                        School:  Stanford                      Position: RHP          

Bat/Throws: R/R               Height: 6’9″                       Weight: 230

Scouting Report: 

BA 337

Massive at 6-foot-9, 230 pounds, Viall never has thrown enough strikes in three seasons at Stanford to earn regular innings, with 99 innings for the Cardinal in three seasons. He’s walked 72 and struck out 68 in that span but still could go out in the first 10 rounds thanks to his arm strength. He’s hit as high as 97 mph regularly and can sit 92-95 mph at his best. He also throws a power curveball that reaches the low 80s at his best. He was outstanding in three scoreless innings against San Jose State, striking out five in a mid-April start, but struggled significantly the rest of the way. Viall doesn’t repeat his release point and needs innings that the lower levels of the minor leagues should provide.

 

Pick: Round 7, Pick 220 Overall

Slot Value: $187,800

Name:   Austin McGeorge                      School:  Cal State Long Beach     Position: RHP          

Bat/Throws: R/R               Height:  6’2″                      Weight: 185

Scouting Report: 

The Baseball Draft Report.

Austin McGeorge, Austin Sodders, Brendan Hornung, Miles Chambers, Scott Serigstad, Keaton Leach, and Trevor Bettencourt are all draft-worthy arms with fastballs that creep past 90 MPH. McGeorge’s low-80s slider makes him stand out among the pack, though Sodders doing it from the left side intrigues me as well.

College Statistics

 

Pick: Round 8, Pick 250 Overall

Slot Value: $175,400

Name:  Placido Torres           School: Tusculum College, Senior      Position: LHP          

Bat/Throws:  L/L              Height:    5’11”                    Weight: 170 LB

Scouting Report:

Baseball America #499

Torres had as good of a season as he possibly could have. Granted, it was against Division II competition, but it’s hard to walk away from his performance without taking a closer look. Over 14 starts, he went 11-0, tossing seven complete games as he racked up 116 innings. Torres struck out 162 batters and allowed just 61 hits and 24 walks all season. He allowed nine earned runs. Torres doesn’t have explosive stuff, but he’s lefthanded, pitches at 88-92 mph and shows scouts an average curveball at times. Torres is 5-foot-11 and undersized for a starter. He originally pitched for ASA College in New York, serving as the ace of the staff for two years before transferring to Tusculum. He could be picked in the top 10 rounds as an underslot senior sign.

 

Pick: Round 9, Pick 280 Overall

Slot Value: $163,700

Name: Colin Holderman      School:  Heartland Community College      Position:   RHP        

Bat/Throws:    R/R            Height: 6’6″                       Weight: 220

Scouting Report:

Not ranked in BA’s 500, but a scouting report from the State Draft Report for Illinois

Colin Holderman, rhp, Heartland (Ill.) CC – A 6-foot-5 righthander who has signed with Mississippi State, Holderman has a promising three-pitch mix led by a low-90s fastball with run and sink. He struck out 88 in 67 innings and also was Heartland’s leading hitter–he hit .509 with 13 home runs.

 

2080baseball.com

Colin Holderman, RHP, Heartland C.C. (Bloomington, IL) – At 6-foot-5 and 220 pounds, Holderma’s frame has been compared to that of Adam Wainwright. He is athletic on both sides of the field, and he could play third base if the situation called for it. Even with his athleticism and plus raw power at the plate, Holderman’s future is on the mound, though. The Mississippi State commit has had cross checkers and scouting directors paying regular visits to his starts at Heartland this year, and deservedly so. His fastball can sit anywhere from 90-to-95 mph with solid command. He’ll mix in a nice running two-seamer to jam up right-handed bats, as well as an average changeup and a low-80’s slider that flashes plus. Holderman throws from a high ¾ slot, and uses his size to create angles. At present, the stuff is more about missing barrels than missing bats, but as the secondaries continue to improve, I’d expect the strikeout numbers to improve as well. Praised for a being a “team guy”, Holderman has taken some of the freshman under his wing and has embraced the role of being a leader.

Pick: Round 10, Pick 310 Overall

Slot Value: $156,600

Name:   Gene Cone    School:  University Of South Carolina, Junior          Position: OF          

Bat/Throws:     L/L           Height:  6’0″             Weight: 170

Scouting Report:

Baseball America #310/500

After two seasons at South Carolina hitting in the low- to mid-.200s, Cone exploded this spring, establishing himself as one of the most consistent hitters in the SEC and in the country. The outfielder set a school record with a 31-game hitting streak, coming in the heart of SEC play, and he was batting .357/.467/.500 as of early June. Those numbers may very well catch the eye of more statistically inclined draft evaluators, as Cone’s raw tools don’t stand out. At 6 feet, 170 pounds, he’s not a physical specimen. An average runner, Cone was displaced in center field by teammate Dom Thompson-Williams late in the season and is more suited for left than right. Cone has obvious feel for the barrel, but his future is likely as a fourth outfielder.

We’ll be continuing tomorrow at 1:00 with the remaining 30 picks.

 

FabFaSuP

 

  • Jgreen

    Thank you Teddy! Any prospects you have in mind for today?

  • Michael Mayer

    Mendoza I think is the most talented but sounds like his $ demands have made him unsignable.

  • Michael Mayer

    I would be happy with Jones or Quinn at #100.

  • Michael Mayer

    BA’s top 10 available:

    Horn, Mendoza, Hays, Quinn, Luzardo, Duplantier, Burnes, Jones, Capel and Murphy.

  • hashbury

    There’s a stud sleeper in there somewhere! Please fine a Piazza!

  • hashbury

    If he has upside and a high ceiling, I would be happy with them taking a shot at him and trying to convince him to sign.

  • MetsMatz

    Michael what are your thoughts on Cole Stobbe 3rd base and Thomas Jones OF.

  • Out of place Met fan

    Funkhauser lost millions…

    Edit 1.75 to be accurate

  • Out of place Met fan

    Matthias Dietz…already has the hair

  • Michael Mayer

    lol, good luck and that portion wouldn’t be until tomorroW

  • Indian Dynamite!

    We need to find our own Stanton or Betts later in the rounds.

  • Out of place Met fan

    I think Jones dropped into go to college territory

  • Michael Mayer

    Jones I like a ton and would take him at #100 without a doubt. Stobbe would be later in the draft for me.

  • Michael Mayer

    That is a ton of cheddar

  • Michael Mayer

    Upside there but they won’t take him if they think they can’t sign him, well at least that high (3rd round).

  • Out of place Met fan

    Groome take note…Funk was consensus top 10 pick 18 months ago

  • hashbury

    Don’t have to wait until the 70th round or wherever he was drafted!

  • Michael Mayer
  • Michael Mayer

    Good point, same with Mendoza.

  • Michael Mayer

    Yup

  • Michael Mayer

    Agree with Callis, Reds have had a great draft so far.

  • Michael Mayer

    I think that overall the Mets have done a solid if unspectacular job so far in the draft. Dunn is my favorite of the three and instantly becomes one of the Mets top RHP prospects.

  • Michael Mayer

    “Wouldn’t surprise me if we didn’t hear his named called” Mayo on Mendoza.

  • Michael Mayer

    Callis disagrees with me and thinks Stobbe could be one of the first picks today.

  • Indian Dynamite!

    White Sox already signed Zach Collins. That was quick

  • 62nd

  • Michael Mayer

    You think Groome signs?

  • Michael Mayer

    Get Dunn signed now!

  • Indian Dynamite!

    The last eleven #64 picks have been Josh Staumont, Mitch Keller, Ryder
    Jones, Joe DeCarlo, Jason Esposito, Jimmy Nelson, Marc Krauss, Tyler
    Stovall, Danny Payne, Joe Benson, and Kris Harvey.

  • Michael Mayer

    Last time the Mets had the #100 pick they took Captain Kirk!

  • Michael Mayer

    Yikes

  • Out of place Met fan

    Depends on what Chapman signs for. Have to come in high with Groome

  • Michael Mayer

    Cole Stobbe the first pick, I will no longer question MetsMatz again.

  • stobbe’s off the board early… damn.

  • Out of place Met fan

    Broken clock is right twice a day

  • Michael Mayer

    Man this coverage is awful

  • Indian Dynamite!

    the phillies too damn

  • Michael Mayer

    Damn, Marlins take Thomas Jones.

  • ID

  • Jones off the board, Mike

  • illnagas

    I’d think MLB would make sure it was smooth coverage but apparently not…

  • Michael Mayer

    It’s pretty choppy as hell and a couple of the announcements didn’t even come through the first time.

  • Indian Dynamite!

    Boston knows how to draft well

  • Michael Mayer

    Now only ten picks away, who should the Mets take?

  • Indian Dynamite!

    Rutherford 🙁

  • Michael Mayer

    They certainly do, developing the arms though is another question.

  • Taskmaster4450

    I think they grab a HS pitcher in 3rd round.

  • Indian Dynamite!

    They turned Mookie from 2B into a CF lol

  • jocThomas2

    Damn I wanted Hays.

  • jocThomas2

    Task you pain how the hell have you been.

  • Michael Mayer

    I would have liked that pick too.

  • Michael Mayer

    Likewise at this point.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Any names you like?

  • Taskmaster4450

    Been doing well JT…..just rooting for the Mets and enjoying the ride.

    Life is good.

    How are you?

  • jocThomas2

    Can we draft someone who has any idea of what speed is. And can David Wright please retire.

  • Michael Mayer

    Luzardo who just went. I like Nolan Martinez

  • jocThomas2

    Got over cancer so been out enjoying life. Now back to every day stress with the metsies.

  • Taskmaster4450

    They have plenty of guys with speed like Stuart…they just cant hit. 🙂

  • jocThomas2

    Did Mendoza go? Big night for my boy Nimmo last night. Keep it going kid.

  • Nonie’s off the board.

  • jocThomas2

    Well ok I’ll throw in the ability to hit as well forgot that.

  • Taskmaster4450

    No looking like his price tag too high..he is going to college.

  • jocThomas2

    Damn that would’ve been a nice fit.

  • Taskmaster4450

    LMAO…the Yankees f**k you again.

  • Taskmaster4450

    For $3M, the Mets can have him.

  • jocThomas2

    3M that’s nothing when they thought it was ok to give Young 7.

  • metsfansince64

    Except in the draft, you are limited in spending what your pool allocation is.

  • Taskmaster4450

    When you only have $10M or $12M in the entire draft, it is.

  • metsfansince64

    Who do you like here?

  • metsfansince64

    Well, they took a 3B.

  • Taskmaster4450

    I guess a HS pitcher here, they went a college 3B.

    I was close.

  • metsfansince64

    Anyone know anything about Tiberi?

  • Taskmaster4450

    They just said a great contact hitter.

    LH bat.

    That is all I know.

  • metsfansince64

    Surprising number of college picks early.

  • jocThomas2

    I understand but i’v e never worried about quantity. Prefer quality.

  • jocThomas2

    Garcia from what 2 years ago?

  • Taskmaster4450

    With or without the PEDs?

  • Michael Mayer
  • jocThomas2

    Whose buying them? I can only give you the answer then.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Columbia or PSL in 2017?

  • Jgreen

    I don’t see any report about Tiberi.

  • Indian Dynamite!

    BUST. There you go

  • refresh!

  • Taskmaster4450

    He is the Mets secret weapon.

    Even more secret than double secret probation.

  • jocThomas2
  • refresh refresh refresh

  • jocThomas2

    Link on Blake

  • Michael Mayer

    Defense is a question but he the bat is good.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Sounds a bit like Murphy….

  • Indian Dynamite!

    Gotta post this on MMO lol

  • Jgreen

    Where is all the chat go?

  • Taskmaster4450

    For $37M cheaper.

  • Indian Dynamite!

    and a pick
    ID

  • Michael Mayer

    Brooklyn right now with Thompson at 3B in COl

  • ID

  • Taskmaster4450

    Didnt you read, they wasted that pick.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Thompson will be in PSL very soon so I expect him to be in Bingy to start 2018.

  • Michael Mayer

    Like the Tiberi pick, as mentioned below he reminds me of Daniel Murphy. He did throw a no-hitter in high school too.

  • Jgreen

    Hitting 7 hr in PO and throwing no hitter is all we want from 3rd rounder

  • Jgreen

    We are really skipping on HS player don’t we

  • Jamie

    Coming later.

  • Michael Mayer

    Still have the issue of what to do with Urena, be curious to see how the Mets handle that.

  • Taskmaster4450

    College guys tend to sign under slot since their options are more limited than the HS guys.

    I expect to see some HS guys selected and them go over slot to get them to sign.

  • Taskmaster4450

    I expect him to head back to Columbia in a few weeks and given a chance to hit there.

    After that, all bets are off.

  • Jgreen

    Just saying it is very different from previous Sandy’s draft.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Yes it is.

    I think the timing and place the organization is at now really is driving what they do. They want to get talent in, especially ones that can move up quickly. If they can get guys to AA, they have some value if the Mets need to make moves to help the big league club.

  • P&C’s

    Glad they took another power bat in Tiberi. Always nice when a guy mashes in the wood bat cape cod leagues. Lots of questions is he can play 3rd at the MLB level, but his power plays. Loading up on power bats and power arms……I like the plan, those attributes are rare and hold the most value in future trades or play

  • Michael Mayer

    Took HS LHP Jake Simon in the 11th last year and gave him big overslot bonus.

  • Michael Mayer

    Definitely like Simon last year.

  • 8 away…

  • P&C’s

    loading up on power arms and bats so far

  • Taskmaster4450

    What is your guess Teddy?

    HS Arm at this point?

  • Taskmaster4450

    How is a guy who hit 1 HR in 34 games considered a power bat?

    The power is in question according to the scouting.

  • Hackimer’s risk paid off. Smith type.

  • or OF

  • P&C’s
  • Taskmaster4450

    College SS…Michael Paez.

  • hashbury

    Funny, report on Tiberi says below average speed, tweet says above average speed.

  • hashbury

    Look out for those 2021 Reds!

  • Jgreen

    5 straight college players!

  • The Professor

    To help everyone out, feel free to cut and paste the following comments:

    Terrible pick!
    Great pick!
    They’re taking too many pitchers!
    They’re not taking enough pitchers!
    They should be taking major league ready talent in the later rounds!
    This other guy I don’t know anything about would have been much better!
    Collins is an idiot!

  • metsfansince64

    Think one may refer to bat speed, the other to run speed.

  • Michael Mayer

    All college or nothing at all! Michael Paez from Coastol Carolina

  • Michael Mayer

    Tough to argue with the pick, looks like he ends up at SS.

  • metsfansince64

    I feel like we’re back in the Omar days, with all these college players…except with Omar, they were mainly college relief pitchers.

  • Michael Mayer
  • Jgreen

    TBH I have no idea about these late rounders lol

  • Taskmaster4450

    The more picks, the more I think they are saving money….

    I read this is a deep draft for pitching, I expect some quality HS pitchers to be chosen and for them to go overslot.

    This choice simply reaffirms this belief.

  • All five are Cape League Performers.

  • Taskmaster4450

    How relevant is that?

  • all good with wood bats and top competition.

  • ASod75

    Think these college picks mean we’ll see some high school picks later and sign them to above slot bonuses.

  • Refresh refresh refresh

  • Taskmaster4450

    Me thinks the Mets are saving money in the early rounds with all these college picks….

    HS arms are on the way in the middle rounds.

  • The Professor

    It doesn’t stop anyone else from commenting!

  • ASod75

    Plus it seems these college guys can play a little bit. Brooklyn is going to be stacked this year.

  • Michael Mayer

    Both Paez and Tiberi play tomorrow, at 9 and 12 respectively.

  • Go Banana

    That’s my hope. If that isn’t the case, I’m not really sure. I trust the brain trust and I do like Tanous and his track record so far… but it I do think it would be nicer if they had DePo on conference call this time around.

  • illnagas

    tiberious sounds like a good pick. good hitters aren’t easy to come by. Not scared of the insinuation that he doesn’t walk enough. I’d rather have a guy who can make contact

  • Taskmaster4450

    Obviously his walk rate didnt scare the Mets away since they took him.

  • Michael Mayer

    Paez sounds very similar to Dilson.

  • Michael Mayer

    That only matters if your name is TJ

  • illnagas

    Obviously. I was referring to the above scouting report

  • Michael Mayer

    Absolutely, excited to see what live arms they can get.

  • Dammit, I wanted Capel

  • Michael Mayer

    Me too, good pick.

  • Indians…damn you

  • Michael Mayer

    That did surprise me a little when I read that with fit with Mets.

  • Doubl

    I’m not a big fan of the 3rd pick. Obviously I’m uneducated but based on the scouting reports, there must have been better players available. I wished he had one standout tool.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Power…that is his standout tool.

  • Jgreen

    POWER!! UNLIMITED POWER!!!!

  • Jgreen

    Another college bat!

  • Taskmaster4450

    Another SS although the MLB guys dont think he sticks there.

  • Michael Mayer
  • Michael Mayer

    Another college player in Cody Woodmansee. Sounds like he will have to move to 3B eventually.

  • Doubl

    But doesn’t he only rate 50 for power

  • Michael Mayer

    Sounds like 3B eventually.

  • Michael Mayer

    The Brooklyn Cyclones are going to have a better lineup than the Binghamton Mets.

  • Michael Mayer

    Power is definitely his standout tool, more specifically the raw power.

  • Michael Mayer

    Like the players the Mets are drafting so far but at some point the Cyclones infield is going to be overfilled.

  • TurdFerguson15

    Holy Brooklyn Cyclones Batman!

  • TurdFerguson15

    1B. Alonso
    2B. Paez
    3B. Tiberi
    SS. Woodmansee
    CF. Lindsay

    Team will be fun to watch.

  • Michael Mayer

    That lineup is going to rake.

  • Jgreen

    Will Dunn and Kay pitch there also?

  • Michael Mayer

    Arnaldo Berrios and Raphael Ramirez in the outfield too.

  • danielm123

    The Mets usually like to put their top draft prospects in Brooklyn, but I’d think that those two would be ready to pitch in Columbia.

  • Go Banana

    Yeah, a HS pitcher or OF might have been nice in this spot. But it does seem like most see him as a solid offensive player with average defense and below avg speed who has excelled in college (best offensive player in stats, at least, on the #1 ranked college team). RH Power is always a nice grab. Hopefully the pick encourages Dom to pick up his game a bit!

  • Go Banana

    I’ve gotta assume that a number of AA position players are going to be dropped (or demoted or benched) in the next year or two. Where is the most organizational filler, in general? AAA or AA?

  • Taskmaster4450

    AA is mostly organizational filler at this time.

  • Go Banana

    Maybe start them in Brooklyn (both are from NY’ers, right?) and then move them to Columbia if they hit the ground running…

  • refresh.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Looking back a most drafts, the simple truth is most of these guys selected today, will not even get a cup of coffee in the majors.

  • Jgreen

    So far who is the winner and loser of this draft?

  • Go Banana

    Do you think that’s a general rule? Like the biggest jump is from AA to AAA… so more easily replaceable filler in AA and the guys who can cut it in AAA end up being the guys like Campbell and Reynolds and Muno and unfortunately for everyone, Montero. AAAA guys who might get a cup of coffee or two but never really exceed anyone’s expectations.

  • Indian Dynamite!

    Winners: Reds and Red Sox
    Losers: Angels

  • danielm123

    Quiet. Let me believe that each of these guys will go to the HOF.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Ok…sorry….my bad

  • Indians as well.

  • Jamie

    C Ali Sanchez

  • Michael Mayer

    I think it’s a TBD with Red Sox depending on if they sign Groome.

  • Michael Mayer

    I would think so but possibly finish in Columbia.

  • Go Banana

    Indians as winners, correct?

  • Michael Mayer

    I think it’s generally pretty close between AA/AAA but B-Mets have a ton of dead weight on their roster right now. Although bullpen has gotten better with promotions.

  • yep

  • Taskmaster4450

    I think the Mets problem is, in part, due to lack of IFA kids at that level. After the Flores, Familia, Robles, Juan parade went through, there was nothing from that venue adding to the system. Rosario is Sandy’s first big IFA signing and he is just getting to AA (soon). Urena was another guy counted upon who stalled. In the last few years they have done a better job in this realm but the kids are a couple years away from AA.

    This is coupled with the fact that Sandy hasnt done well after the first round, overall. 2 or 3 hits in rounds 4-10 in the 2011-2013 time period might have Bingy looking a bit different.

  • Benson, Jones, Ice, Capel are HUGE upside.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Padres seem to have people shaking their heads.

  • danielm123

    Part of me feels like you can’t really say who’s a winner or loser, since most of the players won’t make any contribution for at least 2-3 years.

  • metsfansince64

    Or five years if they’re high school kids.

  • Go Banana

    I was just looking back at the last 5 drafts and it was nice to see some early-mid draft picks at least utilized to upgrade the major league roster: Fulmer (compensation to get Cespedes, which was doubly helpful as Ces fell in love with NYC!), Gant (rd 21) & Whalen (rd 12) to get Uribe /Johnson from ATL, Koch (rd 3) & Miller Diaz (didn’t see a rd, maybe IFA…) traded to get A. Reed from ARI, Meisner (rd 3) traded to get Clippard. In addition, some guys not picked in the first couple of rounds that have turned themselves into at least C+/B prospects: Gsellman (rd 13), Flexen (rd 14), Nido (rd 8).

  • Go Banana

    Yeah, sometimes I wonder if picking names out of a hat might have better results based on the failure rate of drafting players. I don’t want the Mets to test this, though. I don’t want them trying to save a few bucks by cutting their entire scouting staff.

  • metsfansince64

    Ummmm….the 2011 draft produced Brandon Nimmo, Michael Fulmer, Corey Mazzoni, Logan Verrett, Leathersich, Muno, Gsellman, Taijeron, John Gant and Seth Lugo. Looks like a pretty damn successful draft to me. I haven’t looked back at 2012 and 13 yet.

  • Go Banana

    You can have initial winners based on the general consensus and certain teams making the most out of their budget and position in the draft to get as much possible/projectable talent.
    On the other hand, you are definitely correct in that the real winners and losers won’t be known until we see the careers of these players for the signing teams.
    But a definite X factor is the way some teams are able to use prospects for trades, especially if utilized at their highest value. Of course I would love to still have Fulmer, but it cannot be denied that acquiring Cespedes gave us some of the most exciting few months of baseball in 6+ years.

  • Indian Dynamite!

    Yeah but some fans still cry about the Fulmer trade.
    ID

  • Go Banana

    Psst. You forgot the ID…

  • Out of place Met fan

    Tiberi’s scouting report sounds like Murphy’s in 2006

  • Taskmaster4450

    It isnt a bad idea to draft guys, develop them, and then unload them for help at the major league level.

    After the second round, most guys are fliers anyway so might as well trade them like they did with Mazzoni, Koch, and Meisner.

  • Puddy–LGM

    Not one HS school kid yet?

  • metsfansince64

    2012 and 2013 don’t look as good, but the jury is still out on some of the younger guys taken, especially in 2013.

  • danielm123

    Nope. All 6 are from college

  • Indian Dynamite!

    Viall, Christopher

  • Taskmaster4450

    7 now

  • danielm123

    Another one from college. He’s also 6’9″

  • Taskmaster4450

    Get him repeating his delivery and they might have something.

    The moving parts on a guy that big is tough to align.

    Teach him a motion similar to Thor’s.

  • JDTerrific

    Anyone have any idea of who is linked to the Mets from the International Pool come July 2nd?

  • metsfansince64

    And another Cape kid.

  • no million dollar bonuses.

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  • Taskmaster4450

    College kids who played on the Cape.

    There might be a trend here.

  • Out of place Met fan

    But a few haven’t been seniors, so still have leverage and should sign near slot

  • metsfansince64

    A lot of college kids, but young ones. Mostly juniors, looks like.

  • Michael Mayer

    Viall, tall as hell. Good fastball that can hit upper 90’s and solid curve. Sounds like a reliever.

  • Go Banana

    Completely agree. At a certain point, with certain teams with top 5 rated systems you have to make a choice on whether to continue to stockpile prospects or to start to trade some and call some up and try to compete. Some teams waver for too long and don’t get value from their picks, either in trade or stats playing in MLB. Some teams are the opposite and drain their systems completely of talent for the chance to win for one year. I like the idea of Sandy’s strategy in theory of long term sustainable success… But there are times where I don’t understand why teams like the Mets and the Angels let other teams stock up by going overslot for years while they stuck to the guidelines (not even hard rules) of the commissioner. We could be in such a better place if we had used the system that was in place instead of trying to pat each other on the backs trying to demonstrate how teams could have success without being the highest spending.

  • Taskmaster4450

    The MLB guys said his problem is repeating his delivery hence a bit of a wild child.

    Perhaps having him lean towards home like Thor will benefit the kid.

  • metsfansince64

    20 year old project, seems like.

  • Out of place Met fan

    The need for innings should have him piggy backing in Kingsport, probably starting next spring in Brooklyn

  • Taskmaster4450

    Big time.

  • Go Banana

    Are there any players on the board still that we could potentially be trying to overslot pay thanks to all the money we are probably saving from 7 (so far) college players?

  • metsfansince64

    In 2014, 256 major league players were Cape alumni.

  • Taskmaster4450

    There are probably a number of HS kids the organization is high on that they feel they can lure away from college and develop themselves. It seems their m.o. especially with pitchers.

  • Out of place Met fan

    A few of these college players are underclassmen, therefore can go back to college of money demand isn’t met

  • metsfansince64

    I think most of them.

  • Michael Mayer

    Mets definitely deciding to lean on Cape players, not a terrible idea.

  • metsfansince64

    Yes, it seems like a deliberate decision.

  • hashbury

    AH!

  • Go Banana

    Oh yeah. Definitely. I didn’t mean that we are going to be able to low ball every one. But Mets should definitely be able to save some money on Tiberi and Viall. Both Dunn and Kay are NY kids and could see that as a reason to accept a deal where they lose $100,000 or so, especially the way Dunn shot up the charts and may never have another chance at being drafted at the optimal time for his own benefit. I could see Kay attempt a redraft to go higher next year but I thought I heard next year’s draft is stacked with good HS pitching. Alonso has his flaws and after hitting the way he did on one of (if not THE) best college teams in the country and no other team gave him a shot before the Mets at 64, he probably will take a bit under too. I could see the Mets gain 500,000 to distribute in the later rounds from the picks they’ve made so far.

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  • Go Banana

    Oops. Thought Tiberi was a Senior but he’s a Sophomore. I guess that’s definitely less a chance to save a bunch from him.

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  • Puddy–LGM

    11th round pick should be very interesting to say the least.

  • danielm123

    Austin McGeorge. Another college pitcher

  • Michael Mayer

    Like the pick, has been dominant as a closer. Hasn’t allowed a HR in 83 career innings.

  • Michael Mayer

    Eight picks, eight college players.

  • The Professor

    Seems like a high risk/ high reward type. Probably will never throw strikes and pan out but just possibly might make adjustments and be special.

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  • danielm123

    9 picks, 9 college players

  • Michael Mayer

    With the #250 Pick (8th RD) the Mets have selected LHP Placido Torres from Tusculum College.

  • Michael Mayer

    perfect 9 for 9

  • Michael Mayer

    “What people don’t know about Placido: He’s a great football player”

  • Placido is likely getting a 5K bonus and coming out of the Brooklyn Bullpen like Conlon.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Maybe the Mets will draft Mendoza in the 30th round and give him $3.5M since they are drafting guys who will all go under slot.

  • I’m kind of baffled by this draft.

  • TurdFerguson15

    Are Viall and McGeorge undershot guys as well? Seems like the Mets are loading on under slot guys in 1-10 to go out on a few limbs with overslot players.

  • McGeorge definitely. Viall Probably.

  • TurdFerguson15

    What’s your take on it? Are there guys available after 10 who warrant a significant overslot payday?

  • Taskmaster4450

    You think DePo leaving had a major effect?

    It certainly is very different from the past 5 drafts.

    I thought I read that Taneous (sp) ran the drafts from 2012 on….

    So why the major shift?

  • Yes, plenty of upside guys that teams just had forgone in earlier rounds for the picking, and there’s a few upside guys for a higher bonus than what other teams wanted to give em’.

    I’m just weirded out by the route of the draft.

  • beats me. Doubt he had a major effect.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Are you talking the route of the Met’s draft or the entire draft in general?

  • Lotus1209

    Seems mets are picking many pitchers that are undersized.

  • Mets draft.

  • Taskmaster4450

    To offset the one who is 6’9″

  • Jamie

    Supposedly this is exactly what they wanted to do. People who work for the team are very pleased with how it’s gone.

  • Is there any chance of upside later from your sources?

  • Taskmaster4450

    That sounds like a Harold Reynolds comment.

  • metsfansince64

    They abided by the system to please their good friend the Commissioner (Selig). Who reciprocated by bending over backwards to help them hang on to the team when they were in dire financial straits.

    Of course, now, nobody goes over slot (more than 5%, if at all) because there are penalties in place that make the cost prohibitive, including the loss of future draft picks.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Do you think they would come out and say they are disappointed with the guys they got?

    I mean teams think they are making the best selections at the time.

  • Jamie

    Yes 100%. Expect high school upside plays 11-20 that they likely have already spoke with.

  • Taskmaster4450

    So a number of these picks were really money savers?

  • Jamie

    Before the draft took place I heard best available first three picks. 3-10 was going to be a lot of under sign college guys (win now team) upside sizzle 11-20.

  • Jamie

    Today? I’m sure some were. There certainly hasn’t been one that’s an over sign.

  • Taskmaster4450

    That makes sense.

    Thanks Jamie.

  • danielm123

    Well community college is different.

  • jdon48

    Tiber sounds like Dan Murphy

  • MetsMatz

    Thank You for the feedback Michael. Seems strange this far in and they have not drafted any outfielders. Felt that is an area that could use depth.

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  • Taskmaster4450

    13 HRs in JC….looks like Holderman can hit like Thor.

    If he doesnt make it on the mound, give him a bat.

  • Michael Mayer

    Exactly, which would obviously be a good pick

  • Michael Mayer

    lol, sure is.

  • Michael Mayer

    And now the 6’6 guy

  • MetsMatz

    Thanks for the link Teddy. This kid looks flat out nasty why would a pitcher like him not go in rounds 1 or 2. Asking because I do not know how each player is evaluated.

  • Michael Mayer

    Gene Cone had a 31-game hitting streak this year, finally an outfielder!

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  • Indian Dynamite!

    refresh refresh refresh
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  • Out of place Met fan

    Build, level of competition, and the FB velo doesn’t wow

  • Indian Dynamite!

    Dunn pitching right now.
    ID

  • Jgreen

    Thanks for the hard work Michael and Teddy!

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᵉᵈ ✔

    Duplantier & Thomas Jones still hasn’t been picked? WOW.

  • Ronnie Mac

    Justin Dunn pitched tonight in CWS.

    IP 5.1,
    H 6
    R 4
    ER 4
    BB 2
    SO 6

  • jason bay

    Those last three guys were over slots.

  • jason bay

    Columbia is already in full swing. Almost all college picks go straight to Brooklyn.

  • Somewhere in these final 500 rounds I’d love to see Mets take a flyer on FAU OFer Christian Dicks. Long story short hes like the definition of the term ‘athlete’. Ya never know what professional full time coaching can do for an athlete like this.

  • danielm123

    With Viall, I get this feeling that he’ll either put it all together and win a Cy Young Award or pitch for three years in Rookie ball with 27 BB/9

  • So he got wamboozled for one inning and shut it down the other 4 1/3. Sounds ok to me.

  • Michael Mayer

    lol you could be right, he is the biggest wild card they have taken so far. Great stuff but the command and mechanics so like a big issue.

  • Michael Mayer

    Breaking ball looked very good at times.

  • Michael Mayer

    No problem! Glad you enjoy it!

  • metsman

    Clearly the Alderson administration has some kind of bias against fast athletes. If they draft a guy with wheels by accident they’d probably surgically attach a piano to his back.